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Do I think they would not implement it if it was easy to do? Short answer, yes.do u seriously think they would not all implement it if it was easy to do. for every problem like this for buyer and seller they have to waste time too.
HiInteresting point
Do you think that Dan and/or the would-be seller should reimburse for these added expenses in such circumstances?Hi
the point was that, the amount is not a substantial loss, as stated.
it was preventable, and in the scheme of things, such amounts are either forgotten over the lifetime of a domainer or the cost is expensed as a learning experience.
The charges are from their country’s bank not from DAN or the would be seller. Take it up with the bank.Do you think that Dan and/or the would-be seller should reimburse for these added expenses in such circumstances?
Regardless of the amount, if the would-be buyer was acting in good faith, and had advanced the funds, is it right for them to suffer any loss?
So... you turned into the Grinch of NP since I've been gone I seeThe charges are from their country’s bank not from DAN or the would be seller. Take it up with the bank.
Maybe next time they should do their homework and verify beforehand before hitting BIN on any domain anywhere they find via an internal search. There are many outdated listings everywhere.
You are absolutely right.
I too have made mistakes in the past, and later learned to check at least the following six things while buying a name:
Perhaps there are more. But these are the bare minimum IMHO.
- Whois info.
- Where the landing page leads to.
- Spam status of the name.
- Malware status of the name.
- Direct Trademark violation.
- Is any marketplace selling the same name at a lower price?
Happy domaining
Fayaz.
The charges are from their country’s bank not from DAN or the would be seller. Take it up with the bank.
Maybe next time they should do their homework and verify beforehand before hitting BIN on any domain anywhere they find via an internal search. There are many outdated listings everywhere.
So... you turned into the Grinch of NP since I've been gone I see
If expecting people to admit they should do their basic homework on a domain before hitting BIN on an internal search is being a Grinch then yes. People who can’t even admit their mistakes in a matter and prefer to whine and blame others are children not domainers. The sense of entitlement is why they will not succeed.So... you turned into the Grinch of NP since I've been gone I see
Well, when I first joined DAN, I had no clue that they had a problem with many unregistered domains and recurrent fake listings. Never did I even think that I would have to be doing all the wise steps that you mention, to try to verify that a domain listing was actually legit.If expecting people to admit they should do their basic homework on a domain before hitting BIN on an internal search is being a Grinch then yes. People who can’t even admit their mistakes in a matter and prefer to whine and blame others are children not domainers. The sense of entitlement is why they will not succeed.
HiWell, when I first joined DAN, I had no clue that they had a problem with many unregistered domains and recurrent fake listings. Never did I even think that I would have to be doing all the wise steps that you mention, to try to verify that a domain listing was actually legit.
Yes, I would.Hi
question:
if you are buying a domain from another person, not on marketplace... would you do whois check to verify that person was legit owner, first?
Well, the assumption would be that a large marketplace would have the resources to check the legitimacy up front, before allowing a listing. They do "verify" a seller, by requiring that there have been at least five successful transactions previously. Unfortunately, in some cases, this may create more trust in a seller upfront than is warranted.if so, then why make an assumption that the domain is legit listing, when you don't know who the seller is...on a marketplace, especially if you just joined?
That's an important point. One would wonder if using the registrars to initiate any other marketplace listing would make sense. In other words, right now the registrar marketplaces appear very reliable. They seem to make certain that the seller is legit AND that the listing expires when the registration expires.But currently, if want to be absolutely sure of getting a name, the registrar marketplace, if it is listed there, is the best option. I have a couple of times had people ignore the lander marketplace and go seek it out on a registrar marketplace where it was already listed. There the transfer is automatic and generally immediate (after funds confirmation).
HiI agree there should be verification for all initial listings.
HiEvery time a sale fails, it is bad for the domain industry overall.
If listings to the external marketplaces were directly done through the registrars, might that solve the problem?
I may misunderstand what you mean by this, but it does not seem to me that all 3 currently have verification processes for initial listings.majority of big 3 already have verification process for "initial listings"
its a real joke its like buying a stock and it runs up and your brokerage calls you and says the seller changed his mind ,but we will scold him. This happens constantly with godaddy ,it shows that this industry in a joke. Ant the technology is stone age ,how can godaddy/afternic deny me listing a domain I hand regged 2 min ago ,What a ----ing joke; And the workers all sound good but no common sense whatsoever ...I hate to say this but they have some real morons that work there nowIts not rocket science to require verification for listing domains on marketplaces. I do not know why in 2023 we're still having this issue. It gives the industry a black eye.
There appears also to be the notion that it's ok to simply say effectively that a "fix is in the works." If there is no immediate plan for correction, that speaks volumes as to the lack of commitment to correcting this problem.its a real joke its like buying a stock and it runs up and your brokerage calls you and says the seller changed his mind ,but we will scold him. This happens constantly with godaddy ,it shows that this industry in a joke. Ant the technology is stone age ,how can godaddy/afternic deny me listing a domain I hand regged 2 min ago ,What a ----ing joke; And the workers all sound good but no common sense whatsoever ...I hate to say this but they have some real morons that work there now
The frustration is understandable. Thanks for clarifying that at least you didn't lose money in the process.I have no financial impact on this purchasement. However, I spent a lot of time in searching the BIN domains in the platform and felt happy when I placed an order on the sale page. Then I felt frustrated and upset when I was told that the deal was cancelled after my payment and waiting for transferring domain.
HiBuyers like you deserve to be able to confidently buy a domain in any marketplace without having to worry about the ability for it to be delivered.
Absolutely. And marketplaces do in general appear to have strict policies of penalizing and even banning buyers that fail to go through with a purchase.Hi
on the other side of that coin:
then sellers would also deserve the same confidence, that a buyer will successfully complete the transaction, when they hit the BIN button and/or agree to a negotiated price.
Sure, that's frustrating.furthermore, the seller shouldn't have to worry about any delays on part of buyer confirming receipt of domain, so that the seller can get paid in timely manner.
Well, the issue here is removing the listings from the DAN platform that are unregistered domains, old listings that are no longer accurate since the seller transferred or sold the domain, or especially intentionally, fraudulently listed domains. Having such listings are not likely an asset to DAN in the long run.and in between that coin:
let's say they shut dan down, like uni, and you just have afternic.
now what you gonna do?
Sadly, when a would-be buyer gets burned by one of the undesirable listings, they may never return to that marketplace. So, you may lose the opportunity to have that buyer buy your legitimate domains.